In just a few weeks, Tom Holland‘s Peter Parker will make his solo debut in Spider-Man: Homecoming as part of a previously unprecedented deal between Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures to share custody of the fan-favorite superhero. But just because Sony and Marvel are playing nice with Spidey doesn’t mean that Sony is giving up on making its own Marvel movies. Last week, the long-rumored Venom movie took a big step forward when Tom Hardy was attached to the title role. But is this a Venom who may never meet a Spider-Man? Check your Spider-Sense at the door, today’s Nerdist News is on the case!

Join host and the only person immune to radioactive spiders, Jessica Chobot, as she examines the implications of a Spider-verse without Spider-Man. Apparently, the deal between Marvel and Sony didn’t extend to all of Spidey’s ancillary characters. (That’s why we’re getting a Venom movie, and why the Black Cat and Silver Sable may share a film in the spotlight.) Spider-Man really does have a rich cast of characters, villains, and supporting heroes, but Peter Parker is the glue that holds them all together. It’s going to be very difficult to establish these heroes and villains without a Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.

The deal between Marvel and Sony only extends for six movies, including Captain America: Civil War, Avengers: Infinity War, and its currently untitled sequel, as well as three Spidey solo films. There were already rumors that Sony was potentially pulling Spider-Man back out of the MCU when the deal comes to a conclusion, and that would be the only way to get Holland’s Spidey onscreen with his greatest villains.

Alternatively, Sony could go with a different Spider-Man altogether and reboot the character for the fourth time, but that may not go over well. It’s also possible that keeping Spider-Man and the spin-off films separate will also allow Sony to go much darker than they ordinarily would have. Logan and Deadpool have proven that there is an audience for R-rated superhero films, and we wouldn’t be surprised at all if Venom follows in their footsteps and goes full horror film when it hits theaters in October 2018.

Should Spider-Man stay in the MCU or join his villains in Sony’s Marvel Universe? Spin a web, any size, and let’s discuss in the comment section below!