Jonah Keri hits the trail with Sopan Deb of the New York Times about his start in sports radio with Mike and the Mad Dog; covering the Trump campaign for CBS; the lessons that sports talk radio can lend to presidential campaigns; why Trump won; whether unpredictability is a feature or a bug; Beyoncé for President; attending 18 months of Trump rallies as a journalist of color; the life of an embed; his new beat covering Trump’s impact on culture for NY Times; Trump’s eye for detail; doing stand-up comedy during and after the campaign; what gets accomplished by marching; and Sopan’s Life Tip.

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