Over the weekend, Darkwing Duck creator Tad Stones inadvertently caused some controversy for the 25th anniversary of one of our favorite Disney TV shows. According to Stones, our beloved Ducktales spinoff wasn’t actually a spinoff at all! Instead, it was an “alternate Duckiverse.” Is it possible for a creator to be wrong about their own show? Yes, it is, and we’re making the case on today’s Nerdist News!

While regular Nerdist News host Jessica Chobot is busy dealing with a Beagle Boys and Negaduck team-up, science editor and Gyro Gearloose’s former assistant, Kyle Hill is here to explain how Darkwing Duck has always been firmly tied to Ducktales…because science! And also by using footage from the show that backs up our conclusions. That always helps.

For starters, we have to call out Stones for getting Gizmoduck’s name wrong. Yes, he was originally called Roboduck when he was developed for Ducktales, but “Blathering Blatherskite!” If anyone should remember Gizmoduck’s correct name, it should be Stones! More importantly, when Launchpad McQuack introduced Darkwing Duck to Gizmoduck, he openly mentioned their shared history in Duckburg. For all of you non-Disney fans, Duckburg is home to Uncle Scrooge McDuck and Disney’s most famous Ducks: Donald, Daisy, Huey, Dewey, and Louie. And who do we see on a “Welcome to Duckburg” billboard in an episode of Darkwing Duck? Why, none other than Scrooge himself!

Finally, we’ve got a much older document from Stones himself that should put to rest the idea that Darkwing Duck isn’t a direct spinoff of Ducktales. Try retconning that!

What do you think about the Darkwing Duck and Ducktales connection? Life is like a hurricane, so leave a comment below before it becomes a duck-blur!