Jeff Wattenhofer is a comedian based in L.A., and is a longtime friend of Dave’s. They started in stand-up together! They used to run “HOLY FUCK” together. They reminisce for awhile and then get into Jeff’s frustration with the current comedy scene, now six years after starting. He lays out, in detail, the options he has as a grown adult — focus on a happy, fulfilling, normal American life or keep focusing on comedy and let it keep being hurtful and difficult and still not make it. Jeff and Dave seriously stress each other out with these thoughts, but then come around to an optimistic place at the end. No, but for real, HOLY FUCK, though.

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