Nudity, nudity, and more nudity. And some other stories that don’t involve nude people in this episode of The JV Club with the delightful Andrea Savage (Step Brothers), including anecdotes about farting and cologne. Yes, these two women are technically grown-ups.
Episode 53:
The JV Club
Andrea Savage
Andrea Savage
For Janet:
http://business.avn.com/articles/video/Study-Questions-Damaged-Goods-Theory-for-Porn-Actresses-495462.html
http://stoya.tumblr.com/post/31108120168/context-and-generalizations-and-paintbrushes-oh-my
http://stoya.tumblr.com/post/33652563756/this-is-all-i-could-get-out-before-i-started-growling
http://jonmillward.com/blog/studies/deep-inside-a-study-of-10000-porn-stars/
http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/25/17901437-porn-can-influence-teen-sexual-behavior-but-only-a-little-study-finds
http://www.eatmypodcast.com/2012/06/04/episode-7-nina-hartley/ <- get her on the podcast @ninaland
I loved Andrea’s stories, but the episode should have come with a gag reflex warning for the guy on the bus mention!! Oh my god, as soon as the word ‘pus’ came out of her mouth I dry heaved a little. Hahah, thanks JV!
Wow, what an especially robust and wonderful round of comments from this group! Thank you so much, everyone- I hope you get the notification that I weighed in (but I’ll mention it on the podcast, too).
Nicole, I totally agree. You’re right- it’s something I go back and forth on over and over. Beyond even what gets said on the podcast. I’m just really, really conflicted about it. And I really did try to get 2 different women on and they just fell through.
Joseph- super interesting insight and I think you might be onto something!
Curtis- I’m so conflicted about the female chauvinist pig thing too. And I love knowing that about the Django character who got cut! I wish she’d stayed in for obvious reasons!
Todd- I should find out more about the flashing numbers in EU vs. US. I’m so curious!
TM – I hear what you’re saying. It goes towards my confusion/conflicted feelings about strong female characters vs. a man’s idea of a strong female character. But what can I say? I do love a lot of Tarantino’s ladies. And I think you’re right about our 20’s!
Alec, me too, though I imagine I’d run into a few too many rats for my taste.
K. – Hearing that sentence made me wince and I thought about cutting it out. It’s not a moment I’m proud of. Sometimes I get protective about young ladies and I use words that I shouldn’t… I’m sorry it all came out that way. Mea Culpa!
PJ- me too!
Finally a JV Club episode that’s got the thing every one visits the internet for: hardcore nudity! Can’t wait to see the Pinterest page for this episode…
I was pretty uncomfortable with the comment about not wanting teenage girls to think it’s ok to dress like “whores.” That seemed very judgmental and that is a pretty pejorative word to throw around. I like this podcast a lot and I think it is generally very positive, but I think it is a much worse message to tell young girls that they deserve to be judged if they don’t meet some arbitrary standard.
I’ve always wanted to explore a subway system after hours, finding all the side tunnels and secret maintenance areas, and abandoned line extensions.
Also, ladies everywhere, *please* be clear about cologne. My roommate is still convinced it’s essential.
Joseph, you don’t have to be a broken person to benefit from therapy. That misunderstanding is a result of social frictions such that relatively few people have actually experienced therapy.
If you could be a fly on the wall in a therapist’s office, you would occasionally hear tales of severe abuse and trauma. Far more frequently, you will hear about repetitive behaviors in relationships, social anxiety, self-doubt, etc…
I dunno…aren’t most of the Tarantino characters (outside of Jackie Brown, lifted from the Elmore Leonard novel) kind of in the “FCP” (female chauvinist pig) mode? I’m hard pressed to think of any who aren’t caricatures who aren’t even as fleshed out as the male caricatures alongside them…aside from the example above…
And aren’t the 20s years where adolescent hormones are still just dying down, and we’re all finding what we’re comfortable with in all sorts of ways?
This episode brought to you by the European Union Tourist Authority! (And Vivid Video) I suspect that whole notion of the genders not actually being allowed to be friends/mix socially might’ve contributed to that delightful public wanking (that, and machismo). I wonder how much “flashing” happens any longer…in this country, and across the waters.
Thank you for bringing up the women who feel like they need to be overly-masculine to feel like they’re offsetting the girls who are extremely feminine. It annoys the hell out of me when girls feel like they need to be all “LOOK AT HOW I DO ALL THE THINGS MEN DO!” and are clearly going against their regular interests. I’m not saying that there aren’t women who genuinely like drinking scotch neat, hunting, smoking cigars, etc., I’ve met them. It’s when they are clearly faking in order to seem less girly.
In that same vein, I hate when dudes won’t admit that they like doing traditionally “girly” things. I love cooking, I like sewing, I enjoy makeup art, and other things like that. It’s the “just don’t try to go against who you are” ideology.
Also, on Django, there actually is a badass female character who ended up having her story cut because of time. The role played by Zoë Bell (the masked slave rustler) actually has a really kickass backstory that they just couldn’t fit into the movie. Small thing, but there it is.
It’s funny, I’ve been working as a photo editor for an adult website for the last year, and as a result of spending hours shuffling through thousands of photographs, I’ve come to listen to a lot of comedy podcasts.
One thing I’ve noticed is how comedian tend to have a lot in common with porn stars. Both seem to want to broadcast the most personal aspects of themselves for all the world to see, and so long as they get paid at the end of the day, both seem to take pleasure in letting the world watch them get fucked.
When I listen to podcasts, there isn’t a day that goes by without one comedian (usually several) talk about what their therapists said. Does that mean you have to have a broken childhood to be in comedy? Is that the same for porn? I’m not entirely sure. I know the most common motivating factor with a lot of the female performer is they get paid well.
Why don’t they go to school and be lawyers or computer programmers? Well some do and are using this business to pay for school. However, that same question could be asked of any stand-up. Why the hell would anyone spending ten plus years talking about one’s observations when they could go to school and have a career in accounting? I mean, accountants do well.
Best of the best,
Joseph
I’ve been listening to this podcast since episode 1. I’ve heard you and your guests discuss assault and abuse, and the effects of those experiences.
I’m listening to this episode as I write this, and I’m a little disappointed by Andrea’s and your judgement of adult film actresses. I’m not defending the profession; it’s not my thing. But I sympathize. Are most of them well-adjusted? Maybe not. Did at least some of them have damaging experiences or face circumstances that led them to their career paths? Most likely.
There are much healthier outlets than porn, but not everyone is fortunate enough to navigate troubled waters and end up in a good place. Perhaps these are the stories that need to be heard.