Chances are that you already know Janet Varney – after all, she’s the host of our very own The JV Club podcast – but did you know that her voice commands the powers of earth, fire, wind and water? Well, if you were one of the 4.5 million folks who tuned in to the premiere of Nickelodeon’s The Legend of Korra, you do. Varney, in her first major voice acting role, lends her mellifluous tones to Korra, the star of the show. I got a chance to catch up with her about the challenges of voice acting, what it’s like to have cosplayers of your very own and Muppets. We talked an awful lot about Muppets.
Nerdist: First of all, congratulations. We heard the The Legend of Korra premiere got around 4.5 million viewers, which is just staggering.
Janet Varney: Thank you! Iâm still kind of processing that information. A ton, a ton of people saw it online when it leaked and when it became available as a sneak preview on iTunes, so I knew a lot of people had seen it already. Iâm blown away by the 4.5 million and Iâm super blown away knowing that that many people had seen it already. Itâs just amazing.
N: I heard it was the most-watched animated series premiere that Nickelodeonâs had in three years.
Janet: Yeah, it was the biggest premiere in three years for Nickelodeon. Iâm so proud to be a part of it. I just canât say enough good things about the show.
N: I just watched the first three episodes and I was really impressed because I wasnât overly familiar with Avatar: The Last Airbender, but it seemed very accessible. It seemed like the Pixar motif where thereâs a show for kids and a show for adults, which gave it enormous crossover appeal.
JV: I couldnât agree more. I wouldâve been happy just doing something that was aimed at kids because I love kidsâ programming. But, when I got this job – and I did have an awareness, I watched the old series – I really felt like I won the lottery because Iâm so in awe of programming that manages to cross through so many ages successfully. Itâs such a huge achievement. And itâs something that Nickelodeon creates thatâs very specific and it knows what kind of shows to aim at what kind of viewers and provides really great entertainment. A lot of their shows appeal to a broad spectrum anyway, but, what I guess Iâm trying to say is – and Iâm never trying to insult a show that has a more specific audience – obviously the target audience for this show could happily live in the 6-11 range because, to your point, thereâs plenty of stuff for young kids to like. Iâm not saying that programming that doesnât hit all of those age groups is lazy, but I do think that it takes a whole other level of care and attention and thought and writing skill to bring everything that gets brought to this table here. You know what I mean?
N: Exactly. Itâs a fine line to toe and not everyone manages to execute it as artfully as you folks have in these first three episodes.
JV: I have to give it up to [series creators] Michael [Dante DiMartino] and Bryan [Konietzko] because they just create a whole world and every time I read a script, the writing team, above and beyond the creators as well – I mean, I write myself, but I certainly donât write the kind of adventure stories with all this humor and heart that these guys are writing in this whole other world that has been created and I donât know, I kind of want to sneak into the writerâs room at some point. The fact theyâre able to see the stuff in their heads, then make it live the way it lives on the screen, I donât understand it. I donât even understand how thatâs possible [laughs]. If you want me to write, like, two kooky sitcom characters making some jokes, I could probably handle that, but if you ask me to create a world where two animals combine to become super animals and you have all these amazing powers and youâre crafting all these amazing relationships between the characters and youâre creating these crazy mysteries that need to be solved, adventures, villains, that would be way too much for me to bite off.
N: Is this your first foray into voice acting?
JV: I have done some. Iâve done small, short animations. I did a pilot for Nickelodeon that didnât end up going to series. This is really the first out-in-the-world series that Iâve done.
N: What challenges does voice acting present versus those of live-action?
JV: For sure, I didnât have a ton of experience doing stuff off-camera. Itâs still kind of hard for me some days to realize that no oneâs asking me to put makeup on and look nice. No oneâs going to fire me if Iâm a little unkempt. We live in an industry, in a city, where people get fired at table reads. Itâs a business. People get hired for a show, then they walk in to a table read and somebody with the network says, âI didnât remember him looking like that,â you know what I mean? It breeds a paranoia for the on-camera stuff that you get embedded into you and the fact that this particular side of the industry is so forgiving in that way… itâs really celebrating the key elements that it does in voice and emotion and acting in a very pure way. I guess thatâs my answer. In a way, the challenge is getting used to the fact that itâs a really pure form of acting and as Iâm getting more used to it… boy, itâs really all that I want to do. You hear that from a lot of actors who cross over from on-camera to voiceover. Itâs not about being lazy or sloppy or anything like that; itâs just, somehow, it feels more distilled. Itâs really about your skill, your talent and…[sighs] itâs so nice. Itâs so nice.
N: Thatâs a really nice sentiment. I think you really hit the nail on the head there.Â
JV: I hadnât thought about that. I hadnât really articulated it like that before. It was a really good question and it got me thinking.
N: Well, Iâm glad we were able to work through that.Â
JV: [laughs] I know! Thank you. This is already more of a therapy session. I mocked it earlier, but weâve come back around to therapy.
N: Another question about the process: when you record, do you typically have the other voice actors in the booth with you or do you record solo? I always think of The Simpsons model where they used to record together, but now itâs all patched in separately.
JV: I think theyâre all probably in their tubs. Like their warm hot tubs.
N: Their hot tubs full of money.
JV: It might be a hot tub full of money – I take it back. There is no water in the hot tub; they get into their hot tub full of money, then theyâre able to record. Those guys amaze me; I am so impressed at the level of skill that some of these voiceover actors who have been doing it for a long time, as well as, Iâm sure, some beginners who are instantly able to create that electric energy you normally need another actor for. I think itâs an interesting – well, let me answer the question first. We do record as a group. Everyoneâs schedule is crazy and the fact that Nickelodeon manages to juggle and balance all these moving parts while prioritizing the cartoon – theyâre artisans of scheduling at Nickelodeon. Because we have people like J.K. Simmons, Mindy Sterling, Dave Faustino and P.J. Byrne, all these people who have very vibrant on-camera careers as well, and Nickelodeonâs dedication to getting us all into a room has been extraordinary. Iâm so grateful for it because I do much better when everyoneâs around. Very, very rarely do I have to go in and do it alone. The parallel Iâm trying to draw is, Iâm a comedian and I come from the comedy world, but Iâm not a stand-up. Again, youâve raised this in my mind for the first time, but it totally makes sense to me that Iâm not into stand-up because Iâm not interested in being on stage alone and Iâm not interested in doing voiceover alone for the same reason. I think coming from an improv/sketch background, Iâm just used to having people around me to feed off of and support. I like to âyes, and,â my friend.
N: When you get the script and it comes time to record, is it more matching the dialogue to the animation or do you record dialogue first?
JV: We record first. We record and then it gets animated. One of the really cool things about that for us that weâve all kind of recently discovered, as episodes have begun airing, is thereâs enough distance between when weâve recorded and when it gets animated – and weâll have recorded episodes in between – that thereâs this weird, magical buffer that exists in a way that Iâve never experienced with any on-camera stuff where I kind of donât remember saying the things that Iâm hearing my voice saying and Iâm not seeing myself on-screen. Weâre able to just settle down and enjoy in a way that we never do when weâre on-camera. Iâm able to experience my work in a completely new way. Itâs far less painful. [laughs]
N: Thatâs a really interesting phenomenon. Part of that freshness and feeling of newness must come from seeing the emotion behind the dialogue manifested within the fully animated world of Korra. The animation is so lush and beautiful that it must add another dimension to the experience.
JV: Absolutely. When Bryan took a couple of us into his office, months ago, after theyâd just finished the trailer, that teaser that came out months ago to whet the whistle of every fan out there, it wasnât the first time and it certainly wasnât the last time, I promptly burst into tears. Itâs just gorgeous. Itâs beautiful to look at and then when you add the amazing music, I think – and not to speak ill of some of the brighter, poppier cartoons that are maybe a little louder and more frenetic than ours; they have their place and I love them – itâs so much more cinematic. Itâs like a great film. You almost donât notice the music because itâs so good at setting the tone for the show. Every piece is of the production is like that for me; itâs a really well-oiled machine and I think that the result speaks for itself.
N: Avatarâs mythology was surprisingly dense for whatâs ostensibly a childrenâs show. Do you think Legend of Korra has any sort of learning curve for first-time viewers?
JV: I donât think so. I think theyâve done a really nice job; it certainly has a dense mythology and it kind of goes back to what we were talking about: itâs enjoyable on a number of levels. For the diehard fans who are very familiar with the old series who treasure that mythology and want that same depth, they will not be disappointed. But, for anybody who hasnât seen the old series and are just interested in getting to know a new set of characters and a great story, I think you can absolutely drop yourself right in. I think you probably experienced that when you watched the first couple of episodes. Sure, there will be references that I might not understand, but I can always go back and get to know the old series. At the same time, thereâs so much happening so quickly and thereâs such a rich story being presented thatâs brand new that it doesnât really matter. Itâs up to any viewer to kind of take what they want away from it and that includes young kids, who kind of love it for the character and the great lessons that are being explored for them, and for adults, who love the storytelling for the same reason, but also this steampunk technology and anime look. I was talking with the cast members and I think for the first time I really understand – all due respect to fans who dress up in costumes – I look at the costumes that characters wear in Korra and I think, âI want that!â
N: That brings me to my next question. Weâve already started to see Korra cosplayers. What is that like for you as an actress?
JV: Total and complete joy. I love it. All of those people can probably better represent Korra physically than Iâd be able to. I love that theyâre out there doing it. I love the fan art. Iâm such a fan of seeing all the little tweaks and interpretations and peopleâs ways of honoring their appreciation of the show. I think weâve already made it very clear that Iâm a crier. It doesnât take much. If I see a super cute gal – seriously, does anyone say âgalâ anymore? – you can call me on this: track me down and smack me in the face if I seem like Iâm anything other than thrilled by it.
N: Having seen the first three episodes, it seems like thereâs something of a love triangle brewing between Korra and the two brothers. Are you Team Bolin or Team Mako?
JV: Yeah, thatâs a tough one. As with any great triangle…some might say that the perfect guy is a combination of both. So, she should date both. No, thatâs not what Korra would do.
N: On a very special episode…
JV: [laughs] I donât know. I think that is my answer. Iâm pretty crazy about both of those characters. I was going to go on to some tirade about how Korra doesnât need to focus on love right now; she needs to focus on her training and becoming the Avatar, but I donât want to chide my own character.
N: The anti-bending protest scene from the pilot brings to mind dynamics like those from X-Men or even, on a grander scale, the Occupy movement. Do you think the show speaks to real world issues or is it more archetypal in nature and Iâm just projecting?
JV: Yeah, that came up for me too because I love X-Men. I donât think youâre projecting, but I think youâre saying two things that are both true. I think any great story like that is archetypal and all it does, when we look at what weâre surrounded by in our culture right now, is continually serve as a reminder that thereâs a reason that we have archetypes and stories that are epic in that way. We are human beings who keep kind of falling into the same crevices over and over again. There is an us vs. them thing that keeps happening. Thatâs what I love about the show: it plants those questions that are so important for young viewers to really consider even before they know theyâre considering them. Not to get all âletâs plant subliminal messages in our childrenâ on you, but I do think that kids are extremely bright, extremely sensitive, extremely intuitive. I always say I owe my sense of humor to The Muppets because I didnât necessarily know what was going on when I watched The Muppet Show and obviously Sesame Street was made just for me. I use The Muppet Show and, as another example, when you brought up Pixar as something that has something for everyone, because that stuff gets in there and, yes, itâs as simple as âI saw someone being bullied on Legend of Korra and I saw how that made Bolin feel and I donât want to make anyone feel like Bolin felt because I love Bolin.â If itâs just as simple as that, a tiny reflection in a microcosmic way of a childâs life all the way up to your point exactly, like the Occupy. [laughs] Although in this case, I think we may have our villains reversed because I certainly donât want anyone to oppose bending. I do think that stuff gets in there and in a larger way helps inform youth about taking a stand against that stuff. It forces kids to reckon and problem-solve and kind of search their feelings to see what they agree with and form opinions. Man, weâre all in a lot of trouble if kids donât know how to do that.
N: On a lighter note, any chance we can get a RiffTrax version of Legend of Korra?
JV: [laughs] Someone tweeted that at Bill and Kevin, I think. I think my writing partner Cole said something like that: âDo you want the ultimate trip? Do you want to hear yourself riffing to yourself as a voice?â I would be really excited to see a fan riff. I would love to see what people come up with doing their own riff of Korra. Hopefully they wonât crush my ego too much, but itâd be really fun to see something like that. If anybody ends up reading this and they want to try their hand at it, I guarantee I would do everything I could to watch it.
N: Great. Weâll put out the call. I also wanted to say congratulations on the success of your The JV Club podcast. Itâs been a welcome addition to our fair family. Whatâs the experience been like so far?
JV: Thank you so much. I was just telling one of the fine ladies over at Nickelodeon that I feel bad for anything else in my career right now thatâs Hollywood-based because Iâm so disinterested in it if itâs not The Legend of Korra or JV Club. [laughs] I didnât know, none of us really knew, when Korra was going to air. Iâm sure you saw it if you were poking around online; it was a mystery to everyone – we didnât even know when it was going to start airing. The fact that there ended up being a correspondence in time frame with my podcast going live and Korra going live, theyâre both two things that I had been doing for about a year before they saw the light of day. To have both of them kind of crack open at once was terrifying, but incredibly exhilarating and fulfilling to me in a way that Iâve never experienced in my career. Iâve been so lucky and had a great career so far, so I have no complaints. Iâm kind of a people person, so I donât have a lot of bad experiences shooting and stuff like that, but my life has been enriched by the fans in a way that nothing Iâve ever done has. Thatâs the key. The work itself – I love doing the podcast, I love the ladies Iâm interviewing, clearly I love the sound of my own voice (Iâm not sure when that happened or why) – all of that is great. The difference when you start getting a response from people – Chris Hardwick said, âI know youâre loving the process of doing this work, but when it hits the public, aside from the things that are going to hurt your feelings, itâs so made up for by the feeling of community and feeling connected to people who are enjoying what you do.â Iâve experienced a little bit of that before, but, man, this has just been… like nothing bothers me anymore, and I only have the fans to thank for that. [her voice gets higher] Iâm getting choked up right now. Because Iâm a crier. Anybody who reads this, if you can just make sure to communicate that nothing bothers me the way that it might have without them, I feel so lifted up and supported by people who take the time to say they enjoy what I do or they like Korra, they want to be tough like her, they want to protect other people or anything like that is just food for the soul. I know that sounds super hippie, but itâs super awesome.
N: No, not at all. Itâs much deserved. Who can we look forward to in upcoming episodes?
JV: Oh, well, hm… youâre always torn about wanting to announce everything and getting people excited about whatâs upcoming and wanting to surprise people. I was thinking about it today. I really want to announce somebody before I record so I can take tweets and have them ask real questions, but then Iâd have to actually say who the person is in advance. Yeah, I mean, I guess I could just say, right?
N: Well, if you donât want to spoil it, how about this: who would be your dream guest to get on the show?
JV: Well, if we can use the publicity machine for this, I will say that I tweeted Jane Pratt who created this magazine called Sassy, that I loved and many other girls my age loved as a pre-teen because it was this magazine – I donât know know if youâre familiar with it, but thereâs really no reason you would be since youâre not the demographic – that basically was for teenage girls. It was not a high fashion magazine; it was really for real girls and that was the message it projected every issue. Letâs talk about real stuff. Letâs have real girls in the magazine. Granted, they were still like skinny models, but it was super empowering and it really inspired me. Thatâs kind of what I have in mind as one of my influences to do The JV Club. That this is interesting to men and women out there is the most delightful surprise. If any of this is getting into the heads of young girls in their teens and twenties and making them feel that itâs okay to be weird, you should just figure out who are and be okay with that. Anyway, I tweeted Jane Pratt, but she did not get back to me. I really want her to do the podcast because I want to pay tribute to her, so she should definitely want to do it. As far as really famous people go…. huh? I just want Emma Thompson to be my best friend. I just want her to come to my house, take a seat on my rug and sip some iced tea on The JV Club. You want me to aim high? Iâm not sure I could aim much higher unless they were no longer alive.
N: Well, I heard through the grapevine in Us Weekly that sheâs a big iced tea drinker. Sheâs just like us.
JV: I knew it! Sheâs just like us! Actually, I think she bends over and drinks it upside-down like people do when they have hiccups. Sheâs that kind of celebrity.
N: One last question: apart from Korra and JV Club, are there any projects about which youâre excited that you can share with us?
JV: Maybe you had some insider information and knew to ask this, but I do have something else coming up. Iâm completely losing-my-mind excited about the Nerdist Channel show coming up that I produced and created with Neil Patrick Harris and David Burtka, a show about Neil Patrick Harris and how he always dreams in puppets.
N: I actually did not know you were working on that and, I have to say, I am so excited for that.
JV: Yep, thatâs my baby. I had a baby with two gay men and thatâs what came out. Weâre in the process of writing that right now and Iâm losing my mind. Iâve already outed myself as a giant Henson Company nerd and since I first made the acquaintance of just one employee at that company seven years ago, Iâve tried to weasel my way into their world. Iâve been successful, but this definitely trumps everything in the past.
The Legend of Korra airs Saturdays at 11/10 c on Nickelodeon. You can listen to The JV Club right here at Nerdist.com. For more on Janet, check out her website.
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Lovely interview with the lovely Janet Varney. I’ve been enjoying the podcast since day one and now my teenage boys have me sucked into Korra!! I looks forward to the NPH show and ANYTHING else that Janet does in the future!
Real Avatar geeks don’t acknowledge the film’s existence. We always see the series as a world apart from the film adaptation
I will have to check this show out. I was a HUGE fan of Avatar: The Last Air bender (just recently re watched the whole 3 seasons in fact) but the Last Airbender movie burned me so bad that I was hesitant to watch this (for fear of more utter disappointment, silly but you know how nerds can be)
I’ll be sure to give it it’s fair chance. I really do want to like it in the end.
I like-a the Korra and the fact that Janet loves The Muppets and what the Henson company produces.
Great and hilarious inteview! Big fan of The J.V. Club and The Legend of Korra. Despite that, I wasn’t aware that the show released until 2 weeks later. It was a mystery indeed.
Also, knowing that Ms. Varney is working on NPH’s puppet show makes me excited about it even more!
Fantastic interview, most definently need to check this show out.