Last week, I got to hang out with Giancarlo Esposito and eat pizza, which was exactly how I imagined I’d be spending my Tuesday afternoon.
Let me back up. Last week, I was invited to NBC Universal for a special advance screening of their hit show Revolution, which started its second season last month. Those of you who have been watching thus far may have noticed a dramatic shift in tone, visual look, and subject matter compared to the first season, and don’t worry – you’re not hallucinating. Executive producer Eric Kripke and star Giancarlo Esposito (“Major Tom Neville”) were both on hand for the screening (an episode which definitely doesn’t pull its punches), and took some time to answer our questions about how the show has evolved, where it’s going and what the hell is going on with all that nanotechnology. So, without futher ado, take a look at seven things you probably didn’t know about NBC’s Revolution‘s new season:
1. The show is shifting its tone and focus in season 2, which means about 100% less random bouts of electricity
One of the chief complaints about Revolution‘s first season was that for a world that had lost all of its electricity, there was an awful lot of electricity being used on the show. Showrunner/executive producer Eric Kripke is the first to admit that may have been a misstep and aims to course correct in the show’s second season, which he confessed to assembled journalists at a recent press day/advance screening of this week’s episode: “I canât say that Iâm the smartest showrunner but I can say that Iâm the hardest working. For me, Iâm a bit relentless about figuring out what doesnât work and how to make it better. So it was about, in the war that last season sort of exploded into⦠well, for one, there was a lot of power in a show that was about no power. And then two, the war format didnât allow us to slow down and focus on what good television is about, which is character and relationships, twists and some reveals.
“When youâre telling a story thatâs about war in every episode, youâre about action sequences and smashing into each other, and then you donât have time to talk about the thing that, really, television runs on, which is relationships and turns. So we really looked hard at creating something that still gave us tension and intrigue and adventure⦠and reset the chess board back to a world without power. Because thatâs what I think people relate to and thatâs the hook of the show. We gave up our own hook for that season, which I donât suggest. But Iâm glad that we found it and we got back. We got back to a more realistic and grittier version of what the world would be.”
2. Season 2 is leaning heavy on the worldbuilding and is determined to look, sound and feel authentic.
Wondering why everyone looked impossibly TV beautiful even in the post-apocalypse? Don’t worry — it didn’t escape Kripke’s notice either. Relocating the production from North Carolina to Texas changed things:
“With the move to Austin came a new team. I miss my team in Wilmington (NC), they were wonderful and worked heroic hours and did great work. But this gave us an opportunity because we had a lot of new team members who are coming to the show with a fresh eye, so you could have a lot of long production conversations about everyone looking too clean. Like, theyâre showering too much. They should have dirt on their face. Where the f*ck are they getting that conditioner? And we can reflect that into the show and also into the production design. When youâre in one town, you can really layer it and make it weathered because youâre spending time in one place. When youâre moving from city to city, itâs hard to mount as lived-in of a world that weâve been able to create this season. So it all serves story and production to create a reality that I hope the audience sees that weâre really working hard to improve it and create a really credible world.”
3. Who’s afraid of the big bad United States government? Apparently, we should all be wary of the Patriots.
No, not the New England football phenoms, although I am always keeping a close eye on their progress even when Edelman can’t catch a pass to save his life. The big baddies of Revolution season 2 are the Illuminati symbol-using, nuclear disaster-exploiting menace crawling out of the woodwork to hatch their evil plans under the name of truth, justice and the American Way. Remember Flynn, the snarling bald bad guy/former Assistant Secretary of the Department of Defense who launched nuclear missiles at Atlanta and Philadelphia, then killed himself after declaring that he was a “Patriot”? Remember how we then cut to an American enclave at Guantanamo Bay saying his mission was complete? Yeah — those are the Patriots, and they’re here to “help”.
Kripke was eager to explain his narrative methodology, nothing that he “grew up and got trained on Supernatural and through other stuff” and he’s “a fan of the Joss Whedon school of showrunning” Â which is, “you organize a season around a big bad. Then you unveil more and more about the ‘big bad’ as the season goes on. You live in the first half of the mystery wondering who are these people and what do they want. And then you live in the second half of the season with the purpose of, okay, now we gotta stop these sons of bitches.” This season will center around a villain “who is scary and the drive of trying to defeat somebody, to understand who they are, what they want and ultimately how to stop them.” Most of all, Kripke seemed relieved and reenergized at how the change has invigorated the writers’ room. “Itâs been really refreshing for us in the writerâs room to tell the stories about whether or not you flip a switch. Because itâs a very binary position,” he joked.
4. Red, white and blue could mean big trouble for our heroes this season thanks to the Patriots.
Discussion broke out amongst the journalists, Esposito, and Kripke about the usage of the American flag to paint the government as a sinister figure, lurking in the shadows, waiting like a cobra to strike. For Kripke and the writers, there have been “a lot of hard swallows in the writerâs room because you know, obviously weâre Americans. Iâm a proud American. Weâre taking a lot of the patriotic iconography of the United States and weâre twisting it to something ominous and malevolent. And obviously, youâve got to stop and take a gut check and think seriously about what moves weâre making and what we want to do.”
Before you grab your pitchforks and start to storm NBC’s offices, you should hear Kripke out: “I think the important point to make and what we really discussed at length was this idea that theyâre all the more hateful for draping themselves in something pure. They take these symbols that have such honorable origins and they use them for their own selfish impulses and it buys us a couple things too. You have bad guys that donât look like bad guys to the rest of the world. Thereâs elements of Body Snatchers, thereâs elements of invasion stories, thereâs elements of the public relations face. The public relations face who is all ‘God Bless America’ but the things that are happening behind closed doors are truly awful. So it let us have a certain amount of mystery because, you know, our bad guys arenât wearing Evil on their sleeves, theyâre hiding it and thereâs more subterfuge.”
5. Essentially, this season is all about a “battle for the soul of America.”
While last season seemed more about a battle to turn the lights back on, season two has loftier aspirations. “If you position it as a battle for the soul of America and who will ultimately take control over it, will it be a country about freedom, democracy, equality and opportunity? Or will it be a country that is about consumerism, fear and oppression? Once we started phrasing it in those ways, then it became really clear that The Patriots represent all of our negative impulses and all of our selfishness and our heroes are all of our better angels.
“It lets us really tell the story of the soul of America, and itâs a conflicted soul where hopefully the light side wins out. So, itâs given us layers of commentary and itâs also given us more conspiracy and mystery to play versus last season, which if I have to criticize it, Iâd say was a little too straight forward. It lets us twist and turn a little bit, which is nice too.”
6. There’s nanotechnology. Yeah, you read that right. Futuristic fireflies and nanotech.
There may not be any power of which to speak, but nanotechnology is powered by heartier stuff like hopes and dreams and possible cold fusion reactors embedded within their tiny microscopic bodies. They factor rather prominently into last week’s episode, and the plot around them is thickening like so many cakes in so many ovens. Kripke was equal parts guarded and excited when discussing this bit of sci-fi, calling them “an ongoing mystery of the show” and “the Bad Robot glaze of the season.” Personally, I always thought Bad Robot glaze was leftover frosting they had lying dormant in a Dharma Initiative bunker.
This isn’t a new plot thread per se, but according to Kripke, “that mystery is the nano tech and it really came out of what we established last season, which is you really have this infinite power everywhere that was just used to keep the power off. As we started talking in the writerâs room, we thought about the limitless possibility if you could take the leash off of it and it could then do more than just keep the power off. Itâs positioned to do anything, which adds a real interesting level of unpredictability.”
Don’t worry though — despite how eyebrow-raising and mysterious these tiny ‘bots may seem, they aren’t going to steal the focus of the show, which is still about relationships and the struggle to survive in a post-electric society. Kripke explained that “the nano research that weâve done, based on what they already say of what is theoretically possible, it is astounding. Like, truly you wouldnât believe it if MIT scientists werenât saying it was possible. So, you know, weâre taking that and weâre adding our writerâs license to it and I think itâll be a really exciting through line to this year. You know, this has kind of always been my American Lord Of The Rings and now, because of the nano tech, we sort of have our magic. So if we play it right, and in its proper percentages, itâll never be a show thatâs just about all that but again with this thin glaze of mystery on top of it, I think it just adds to the whole picture.”
7. Tom Neville is a man on the edge, a force to be reckoned with, and probably not to be trusted.
Last season, Giancarlo Esposito proved that he is clearly a master of villainy in all of its forms as Gustavo Fring metamorphosed into the crazy-eyed, singleminded Major Tom Neville, whose lust for power and control is only exceeded by his love for his wife Julia and his son Jason. At the end of last season, he had seized control of Monroe’s Militia. This season, he is keeping a low profile in a refugee camp and mourning the loss of his beloved wife Julia, who was likely killed in one of the atomic blasts caused by Flynn. Esposito sees Neville as “having given up hope in many ways” and he thoroughly “believes [his wife is] dead. A gleam in his eye, the actor elaborated, “Whatever Eric and the writers have in store, I certainly love that relationship because itâs a true one for Neville. Itâs one that is truly from his heart and he really loves her.”
When questioned on whether or not Julia could have secretly survived, Esposito was matter-of-fact: “Obviously thereâs always the possibility, if you donât see someone die⦠but right now, look at that guy. Heâs a broken man. So sheâs dead to me and all I can think of is to avenge that death in some way and find out exactly what happened. Iâm currently enjoying this quite a bit even though Iâm dusty and dirty. Itâs okay. Heâs a man whoâs coming close to his end right now as heâs ever been which I do love because out of the ashes rises something new. This season seems a little more of a comment on our society in the political world.”
Is Neville a good guy? Is he a bad guy? For Esposito, the lines aren’t quite so black and white. “Neville wants to survive and he wants his son to survive as much as he does,” said the actor. “He wants his son to share some of the same ideals that we now have to find out. We have to right whatâs wrong. So if Jason doesnât follow that trajectory, then heâs going to be lost,” he continued. “Yes, people ask is Neville good or bad? I get all these questions. Is he right or wrong? What side is he on? Heâs always been righteous in some ways since the very beginning of his depiction. He just had to get strong enough to follow that. He does think for himself and he does ask questions. He doesnât believe what everyone wants to just push down his throat. So I think that is the mark of someone who is inquisitive and someone who is wanting the world to be somehow in order again, even if itâs an insane world that can never quite be righted. He wants to be on the side of that order.” And that, dear readers, is why Neville is clearly going to be the character to watch this season. He’s a wrench in the works, but whether or not he gets noticed by maintenance remains to be seen.
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Have you been watching Revolution this season? What do you think so far? How does it compare to last season? Let us know in the comments below or hit me up on Twitter.
I’m glad that this show was cancelled.
Is it deliberate that Texas is the bad guys state and California the good? The president looks like Bush and the patriots with all their patriotic songs made to look evil.
Please young Americans where voting for Obama before Revolution. Stop over thinking this TV show trust me it wasn’t meant to be over thought. Patriots are people who vigorously support their country no matter their political party. He said it himself the Patriot group in Revolution are an extremist group taking advantage of a word with positive commotion.
I also love the show and actually appreciate the new angle and focus. Iespecially liked the modern 2014 episode with Aaron, that was good stuff. I really hope they make at least one more season but i fear we may get to episode 22 of this year and be done :-/
I like the show, but I have to put away my political preferences to enjoy it. The “President” looks like a cross between George W. Bush and Mitt Romney, and he is clearly evil with a capitol “E”. The producers don’t apologize for trying to make “patriot” a bad word, and Kripke’s explanation that they are bad men who don’t deserve to use/wear the American flag is spurious at best–because in the interim, millions of viewers will come to believe that “patriot” is, in fact, bad word. Shame on you, showrunners. It isn’t bad enough that the U.S. has enemies who want to destroy us, you need to make as many people as you can, believe that we are an evil nation? WTF is your endgame? What can you possibly hope to accomplish by defaming the flag and weakening the American reputation at home?
Oh, wait, I know. If Patriot is a bad word, then malleable young minds will shy away from the Tea Party and vote Democrat.
Well, good luck with that. Young Americans gave Barack Obama a chance (twice), and now know that he’s made a mess of things. The country is more polarized along racial lines that ever before, the rest of the free world knows he doesn’t stand behind his “red line threats”, and health care will cost average Americans more than ever before.
Thanks so much, Socialist Politicians. It doesn’t work. Never has, never will.
Love the Show
This show started off amazing at season 1, idea was original and characters were great. Then it all fell off at season 2, you can tell they ran out of ideas by making Monroe a good guy….Rachael looking crazy, such a disappointment!
Especially the Illuminati symbols, why would you put it along with arabic writing on a paper, sick people writing this show seriously….wake up people
Could you be so kind as to translate what the arabic says on the paper? I have a screenshot if you need it,
I love this show and can’t wait to see more of it, hopefully it’s around for many more seasons
Best show on TV. Its going to get really good if it comes back
This is one of the best shows I’ve seen in a long time, it has so many story lines to follow while at the same time they are interconnected. I find it very interesting like something well as strange as it may seem like something you would expect should something like that where to happen in real life.
Holland loves the serie. …We can’t wait for more….the best serie
Am I the only one who what irked about the whole Conner/Charlie thing?
Political points are now clear. When the Evil President of the United States looks like George W. and tells Tom not to get the couch dirty because Reagan sat there, how much more political can you get? They are making the word “Patriot” a bad word because it is associated with the Tea Party. They are changing the thinking of low information voters on purpose, which is their right to do, I guess. But, who is being more sinister? The fictional characters or the writers with their propaganda? That is okay. Good luck with the ratings as people figure out the radical political swing to this. I am already ditching the show. And another thing, the writers think it makes it hard to look at America this way but in reality it is the same trashy, hateful way all of Hollywood looks at America anyway. Especially when they make are working the Patriot angle to make it an evil word. Yes, and turning religion into science with the Nano things- nice move.
I was all about the showrunner’s direction and commentary until he described the negative impulses that would be portrayed in the battle for the soul of America: fear, oppression and … Consumerism? Really? In what way do the Patriots represent consumerism? It doesn’t even make sense. It’s just a stupid buzz word obviously aimed at making a political point of some sort — though what point is not clear. Whatever “consumerism” means in this context, it is surely not the consumerism that drives television advertising and funds TV shows like Revolution — because that would be hypocritical, right?
when is the third season coming out?
it’s canceled…
I have to agree with Eric – i believe that Charlie is actually Miles & Rachel’s girl – so addictive. Please be more seasons…
Best writers on TV doing the best show on TV with perhaps the best cast and crew ever!
That wasn’t Cynthia, that was her husband’s mistress which is why he told Aaron not to say a word to Cynthia.
I’m wondering if the backdoor Aaron implemented into the programming is what’s giving him the control of the nano-bots and nanites. Screw the critics complaining about having some of the story focusing on electricity in a world with no electricity. It’s Sci-fi and I’m interested to know who did it, why was it done, did they finally get the bots to supply energy like originally developed for and can the lights come back on after the destruction of the bunker. Granted it shouldn’t get in the way of other aspects of the story but still… the nerd side of me needs to be satisfied.
I’m wondering how Cynthia got out of the flaming car. Also, I’m confused as to if the people who hold the town are related to the “US Government”. I noticed right away that the folks looked more unwashed. This is good. On ward!
I have noticed an obvious tension between two characters. Rachael and Miles have some serious hidden issues. I was wondering if it was coincidence, or perhaps a plot twist being saved. Rachael’s daughter is quite healthy and adept, while her brother was sickly. There have been inuendo about the possibilty of an affair at an earlier time between Rachael and Miles. I would be willing to bet the farm that Miles is in fact Charlie’s father.