Dave Holmes (MTV VJ, host of Say What? Karaoke and A Drink With Dave Video Podcast) joins Cole and Vanessa to talk the Super Bowl, Clint Eastwood, Madonna’s half-time spectacular, the guy from Lone Star, David Lee Roth, MTV Survivor, cell phones with pens, Go Daddy, Rachel Crow, world peace, Downton Abbey, being LMFAO’d out, Karen Duffy, TRL and the spectacular crazy shitstorm that is Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark.
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Being a nerd and a lifelong Spider-Man fan, my gut reaction when you guys started discussing the new Spider-Man movie and the comics was akin to your stereotypical ‘nerd-rage’. However, I almost immediately calmed myself, because I understand that most people don’t delve into the Canon of comic books, much less Spider-Man the way I have. So, let me clear some things up.
1) ‘The Amazing Spider-Man’ film is a complete reboot and is separate (as are all comic book movies) from any timeline, comic book or otherwise. So, it is starting from scratch and is not beholden to anything that happened in the previous three films.
2) Taking the original comic ‘The Amazing Spider-Man’ as a basis, Gwen Stacy makes more sense as Peter Parker’s first love as she was indeed his girlfriend before Mary Jane. If you really wanted to delve into it though, Liz Allen was Spidey’s first girl, but no one really liked her and she was quickly pushed to the side in favor of Gwen.
3) You guys talked a lot about the different ‘timelines’ of Spider-Man and mentioned several books including Web of Spider-Man, Spectacular Spider-Man, and Amazing Spider-Man. You got it half right. Unlike DC (who have frequent inconsistencies between their titles), Marvel does a good job of keeping all their story lines together, and the three books I just mentioned are all Canon. These books would actually reference events that happened in the others from time to time, so that if Spider-Man had a particularly rough fight in Spectacular Spider-Man the reader would find him bandaged in the next Amazing. The reason for having so many titles is that when you have a popular character you want your fans to be able to read about them more than just once a month. All this being said, where you got it right is that there are in fact other Spider-Man ‘timelines’ such as ‘Ultimate Spider-Man’ where the story is completely separate from the main timeline Canon. Marvel keeps these stories separate so that the reader is never confused as to why Spider-Man is in 11th grade in one book, and is teaching high school in another.
That is my (hopefully) calm, if somewhat verbose response to your Spider-Man debate.
Dave Holmes seems like a really cool dude. I’m glad he’s doing well. Well, bye