While we definitely loved Star Wars: The Force Awakens, we can honestly say some of us weren’t in love with the title. It wasn’t bad, it just wasn’t overly enticing; a good but pragmatic subheading. For this year’s upcoming Rogue One: A Star Wars Story we’re much more intrigued. First of all, we like that Rogue One, a war movie, has a name based on a call sign… plus, it resembles the title of a 1980 WWII movie called The Big Red One (which co-starred Mark Hamill). Director Gareth Edwards, however, says the name has more meaning than just the name of the good guy group.

As part of Empire Magazine‘s lengthy piece about the film in their latest issue, Edwards revealed the title’s origin comes from a pretty obvious place. “What does it mean? ‘Rogue One’ is a military call sign to some extent,” he adds, referring to Red Squadron during the Battle of Yavin, “but this is the first film that’s gone off-piste and is not part of the saga – or the Anakin story – so it’s the ‘rogue’ one, you know?”

So… it’s kind of a pun title. Not all that insightful, but he is on to something in that this looks to be the only one of the films, in the main saga or the Star Wars Story, that will be mainly about totally new characters and not feature any of the established folks. Even though it’s got new actor to the series Alden Ehrenreich, the Han Solo prequel movies will have all lots of known characters, of course. Rogue One may well have a few tricks up its sleeve, but so far we only know Darth Vader shows up briefly and that a character from Clone Wars is in it. So maybe it is the “rogue one” after all.

Let us know what you think about Rogue One‘s ‘no duh’ title in the comments below!

And we’re still jazzed about the latest trailer. Are you?

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