Today at the Television Critics Association’s annual Winter Press Tour in Pasadena, Arrow and Flash executive producer Greg Berlanti revealed that he and his fellow producers Marc Guggenheim and Andrew Kreisberg are in early talks about an Atom spin-off series starring Brandon Routh, whose Ray Palmer is set to become DC’s iconic mighty mite in the second half of Arrow‘s current third season. While speaking on the CW’s Arrow/Flash panel Berlanti said he’s not allowed to say any more about the spin-off. But we caught up with Guggenheim immediately afterwards, who elaborated on why Routh’s character deserves his own show, and what fans can expect when his Atom suit is finally unveiled on Arrow!
NERDIST: You just mentioned youâve given some consideration to an Atom spin-off series…
MARC GUGGENHEIM: The thing that weâve been talking about is just how do we further expand the universe; and we love Brandon and we love having him on Arrow.
N: He brings a new dynamic to the show in his scenes with Emily Bett Rickards’ Felcity, a kind of screwball comedy vibe.
MG: He does. When we met with Brandon, the whole point of Ray Palmer for us â not the whole point but a big piece of Ray Palmer â was⦠Felicityâs voice is of a different show and we always say that Emilyâs playing tennis against herself. [Laughs.] So we wanted to create a character that could vibrate at her frequency. And Ray really brings that and brings that energy and heâs so much fun to write. Heâs a joy to write. Brandonâs so terrific and embodies the role so well that when we talk about how to further expand things, heâs a natural person to talk about. Itâs like Brandon said on the panel, originally when we met with him we just wanted to bring a great character onto the show and we wanted a great actor to play him. Thatâs really how it always starts. With the exception of Grant Gustin on Arrow last year, thereâs never been a [decision] to bring in a character with the intention to spin them off. Itâs always, âWhat services the show the best?â
N: Thus far your discussions about an Atom show have been preliminary?
MG: Yeah, weâve talked in the most preliminary of ways about doing something with Brandon beyond Arrow.
N: Is that something youâve kept in mind when designing his costume, about whether it could work in an Atom series as well as on episodes of Arrow?
MG: No, the costume is just âHow do we get it to work on Arrow?â Maya Mani did the design that she always does. Itâs her best costume, and thatâs really saying something. Itâs coming together beautifully. Brandon just did his third fitting with it, and itâs the most ambitious costume weâve ever done on the show. One of the things I like about it is we did it without consideration of a spinoff. We did it because this is a cool thing to have on Arrow.
N: It sounds unique in that it will have an armor component but not be CG like Iron Manâs suit.
MG: No. And our goal when we had an idea to do a super suit was âHow do you do it in a way thatâs not Iron Man?â Thatâs the trick creatively. Because we donât want to duplicate Iron Man, we want to do our own thing. So thereâs a lot of practical elements to the costume that on Iron Man they have done with CG. Weâre gonna do it practically.
N: Is it to soon to say which episode the suit will debut in?
MG: It is only in so far in that itâs one of those things that Iâve got to get clearance to talk about. But I finally know. Unlike every other time Iâve done an interview, where itâs like, âItâs when the suitâs ready!â [Laughs.] Now I finally know what episode itâs going to be.
N: This must be your biggest technical challenge yet on Arrow in that youâre not just introducing a new character with super powers but the universe in which he travels as well. Thatâs gotta be expensive.
MG: Very much so. And weâre doing in addition to the costume a digital double like they have on Flash for Barry Allen, so thatâs its own envelope-pushing thing. Yeah, weâre trying some new stuff that weâve never done before production-wise on the show — and practically. Thatâs exciting. Itâs always exciting to push the envelope but itâs also nerve-wracking at the same time.
N: We can’t wait to have a new Atom action figure lined up next to our Arrow and Flash figures.
MG: Yeah, theyâre already planning the action figure!
N: Excellent… Thank you, sir. Itâs always a pleasure.
MG: Of course. Thank you!
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What do you folks think? Does the Atom deserve his own show? And how friggin’ cool will it be to watch Ray Palmer battle evil alongside Oliver Queen (and perhaps Barry Allen)? Let us know below!
I like him and agree with a lot of your opinions. But no, I like seeing these bad ass here’s (like Batman) that use their training in order to protect their city. Not Half-man/ Robo-Cop looking guy. His character is great…but when is the Joker going to get his own series. Or ra’s. Let’s bring some darkness. oh, and I’m to tired of everyone doubting olives decisions. omggg stfu you have no idea what he deals with in his head
No Atom should not be a spin off
There isn’t a formula in the universe that can prove Routh is a good actor. Not one. He is fan service – Hey it’s the guy who played Superman in that horrible movie. Stilted or manic never natural.Not trying to be a troll but he is just not good at all.Not a matter of opinion but fact and it needs to stop now.
And let’s slow our rollon Super hero tv shows.I for one want to see them stick around and with what we have already the full slate of netflix – come on let’s not cram it down the public’s throat just bc it’s hot. Too much too fast kills demand everytime.
I disagree that Routh is a bad actor. He was forced to imitate Christopher Reeve playing Superman for the horrible “Superman Returns,” but he did a good job of it. He was then completely different in “Scott Pilgrim.” Then his appearances in “Chuck” were quite different — he made a pretty good bad guy. He can be funny or serious and has a wide range.
I think he’s doing a good job as Ray Palmer, a hunky nerd who is so pre-occupied with his projects that he often doesn’t pay attention to things going on around him. I hope he gets a successful spin-off, as the Atom is an underutilized character with a lot of potential.
I would love for him to stay on Arrow. He is absolutely fantastic. He’s a male Felicity! I loved the episode with her Mum and he walks in her house mumbling at himself about the cat being a boy or girl. It’s was great!
Routh is great, and more Atom would be fun, but I think they should go the Agent Carter route, and have it be a limited episode series, three 23/24 ep shows in one universe on one channel might be a bit much.
I vote for Flash and Arrow to continue as they are, and for shorter Atom and Firestorm series to fill the gap during hiatus.
Honestly, I saw the opposite, bring on as many of these superheros as they can. As long as the writing is good, I’ll watch every single one.